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...Guys, I think I'm almost straight edge.

I mean, I don't have a problem with drinking or whatever in general... but when I hang out with friends and the cigarettes/alcohol come(s) out, I find excuses to leave. I mean, I have a legit reason for not wanting to be around cigarettes- smoke could destroy my voice, and I don't want to take any chances with that because it's everything for what I do. But people being drunk weirds me out too. I don't think any less of people who do it, but... it's very much not my scene. And once people start getting drunk, I invariably find an excuse to leave. And if drugs are involved, I will get the hell out of there... if I was there in the first place.

Like I said, I think I'm almost straight edge.

I say "almost" because, while drinking/smoking/drugs freak me out... like hell would I give up intimacy just to be a perfect little goody two shoes. That's just a massive no. I haven't even been doing it for that long, but. No.

Anyway. That was my Musing of the Day. Thought you all should know.  :D

Date: 2011-01-02 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yamikinoko.livejournal.com
Ahahahah. I actually didn't know what "straight-edge" was until last year, when it was applied to me. Heck, it's not such a bad thing, I suppose. Drunk people weird me out too. O___o

Date: 2011-01-03 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
Oh, no, I'm not saying that it's bad or anything... it's just not something I thought was me. I mean, I used to think that my weirdness around drunk people was just inexperience... but now I have more experience, and I'm still weirded out when people are drunk around me. So. It's just a thing. That I noticed. XD

Date: 2011-01-03 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
Haha, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing to be straight edge... I just never thought that it would be something that would really even almost describe me, you know? I used to think that my weirdness around drunk people was just inexperience, but... I'm actually weirded out by it. I dunno. It's just a musing of mine. XD

Date: 2011-01-03 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yamikinoko.livejournal.com
Hahaha, I know what you mean. Straight-edge is used awfully liberally to describe, well, everything.

Maybe it's 'cause they seem so out-of-control? That's what weird me out about them...

Date: 2011-01-04 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
Legit. I mean, I'm not even entirely sure what it's formal definition is, anymore. XD

And yeah. That's definately a major part of it. And then especially when they're underage... especially especially when they're not even 18 kind of underage, and they tell me that they need alcohol to be able to function in social situations.

Date: 2011-01-02 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistytpednaem.livejournal.com
M-Maybe I'm just a dork, but I don't see any problem with being "straight-edge." 8|;;

Date: 2011-01-03 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
Oh, no, I'm not saying that it's a problem to be straight edge... it's just now how I ever thought of myself.

Date: 2011-01-02 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vampricyoda.livejournal.com
I think the whole straight edge thing is an attitude more then anything else. From my expereince people who consider themselves straight edge look down their noses at people who do drink/smoke ect.

It seems to me it's not you're attitude (since you just said you don't think less of them) and more just your preferences. I have a friend that's like you in that respect.

It's like. . .you can't be an athiest without being passionate about it, then you're just agonostic (or antostic. . I get those two mixed up). To give an example.

Date: 2011-01-02 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rapturesmusic.livejournal.com
It's agnostic, but even then there's a difference (I've been both). Atheists basically ascribe to the idea that there is NOTHING and all religion is bullshit. What gets people up in arms about the atheists is the prevalence of those holier-than-thou types, which, IMO, are just as bad as any bible-thumping fundie.

Agnostics don't think there's anything, but they acknowledge that their might be something greater than themselves. This is the quieter bunch of non-believers.

And, if I may, you're actually wrong about just being agnostic if you're not passionately atheist. I have several friends who are hardcore atheist, but they don't get up in someone's face about it. That doesn't change their belief, they're just not annoying holier-than-thou dickwads.

Date: 2011-01-03 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
I would disagree with the idea that you can't be a non-passionate atheist... but that's not the point.

I see what you do mean, though, and... I dunno. I mean, I guess it can be considered an attitude... but I think there are certain parts of it that are more than just an attitude too. I'm not entirely sure what I'm saying though, as it's past 2 in the morning, so... take that or leave it as you will. XD

Date: 2011-01-02 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engelen.livejournal.com
I'm 100% straight-edge, seeing how I don't believe in making out with people I don't plan on dating (or who think they've got a shot at my heart... I hate breaking hearts).
Then again, I'm already 23, and already went through that phase of "wanting to kiss people" (also, I got my heart broken a couple of times, that's why I'm more careful nowadays).

I don't like drunk people because I don't know how to deal with them. I take everybody seriously, and then I find out they're drunk :(

Date: 2011-01-04 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
Haha, yeah... I'm still mostly in that "wanting to kiss people" phase, because it's fun, and I didn't really get to do it in high school. But I totally get what you mean, and it makes perfect sense.

And yeah. Funnily enough, I made the opposite mistake once too though- I could've sworn someone was high, and then they ended up being totally sober... it was weird. XD

Date: 2011-01-04 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engelen.livejournal.com
enjoy your wanting to kiss people phase :D
just be careful with your heart (and your genitals)

Date: 2011-01-05 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
Haha, thanks. And don't worry- I am careful. I still only hook up with people I actually trust, so it's all good. XD

Date: 2011-01-02 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rapturesmusic.livejournal.com
I used to be straight edge. I got into the lifestyle because the members of AFI were, and it kinda went from there. I had to drop it, though, when I had to take prescription meds and developed a caffeine addiction - no drugs whatsoever, even to treat legitimate health problems.

I didn't drink until after I'd been with Kara for a while because alcoholism runs in my family. That was more than enough reason to never drink. I don't leave the house with I do drink, and I only buy my Mike's when I have the money, which isn't all that often. Smoking...I don't smoke because second-hand is bad enough, and cigarettes lead to lung cancer, which killed Granddad. I've tried them, but I don't like them. They're gross.

The thing about intimacy...being straight edge doesn't mean taking a vow of celibacy. It just means you can't be promiscuous. If you're intimate with one person for a long time, even for the rest of your life, then it's acceptable. As for the village bicycle...not so much. XD;

You'd probably fit the bill then. And there's nothing wrong with it. You're your own person, and if anyone faults you for it, it's their problem. It really helps that you're not a holier-than-thou...those types are a pain in the ass regardless of where they're found.

Date: 2011-01-04 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
Haha, I'm definately not a holier-than-thou type... I don't give a damn what anyone else does, just so long as it doesn't affect me. XD I still say I don't entirely fit the bill because I'm a bit more promiscuous than that... I enjoy flirting with most people, and I have no problem with random hookups. But I also know where to draw the line so I'm not the village bycicle. That's certainly not the kind of person I want to be. XD

Date: 2011-01-03 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scholars.livejournal.com
Lol, I googled "straight edge" because I didn't know what it was, and apparently I fit wikipedia's definition of it to a T, right down to being vegan and not using caffeine.

I don't think it counts unless you are actively trying to be that, though.

Date: 2011-01-04 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthoniel.livejournal.com
Whoa, you also gotta be vegan and not use caffeine? I didn't know that part of it... I like meat too much, and there's technically caffeine in chocolate. Ain't nobody takin' me away from my chocolate. XD

But yeah, you're the second person to voice the opinion of "you're not really straight edge unless you're trying to be" though, and... I pretty much agree with you there. I'm not really trying to be straight edge anyway... I just never noticed just how close to the general definition of it I am before. XD

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